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NEW YORK \u2014 Rachel Dratch wants you to know: She does not have a psychic. But would it be so surprising if she did? She discusses ghosts, astral projection and the supernatural on her weekly podcast, \u201cWoo Woo.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cSometimes, because I have the podcast, I think it tips me into talking about a lot of this kooky stuff, and I\u2019m not all about kooky stuff,\u201d she said. \u201cI guess it can come off that way, but I don\u2019t care.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

It might have come off that way to readers of her 2012 memoir, \u201cGirl Walks Into a Bar \u2026,\u201d since she shared a couple of prophetic dreams and an encounter with a channeler named Kendra. That channeler accurately predicted, on Dratch\u2019s 43rd birthday, that she would one day become a mother \u2014 the next year, in 2010, Dratch gave birth to her son, Eli.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Dratch, now 60, manifested another dream she mentioned in the memoir, much to her fans\u2019 delight: being cast in a Broadway comedy. Four years ago, she starred as Stephanie in \u201cPOTUS: Or, Behind Every Great Dumbass Are Seven Women Trying to Keep Him Alive.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

In late March, Dratch returned to the Broadway stage, this time as the Narrator in the revival of Richard O\u2019Brien\u2019s \u201cThe Rocky Horror Show\u201d at Studio 54. Not only has Dratch realized her wishes, but she has exceeded them \u2014 both roles have earned her Tony nominations.<\/span><\/p>\n

Dratch admitted that some people in her life were surprised she was doing stage work. But, she said, \u201cthat\u2019s actually where I started out.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

The veteran comedian \u2014 beloved for her \u201cSaturday Night Live\u201d characters like the endearing wet blanket \u201cDebbie Downer\u201d and Denise McDenna (also known as Zazu), the quintessential Bostonian \u2014 studied theater as an undergraduate at Dartmouth College, spending a semester at the National Theater Institute at the Eugene O\u2019Neill Theater Center in Waterford, Conn. But her knack for improv took her to Second City in Chicago before she did seven seasons of \u201cSaturday Night Live.\u201d Her confidence onstage and her quick wit lend themselves perfectly to the demands of the role as the Narrator of \u201cthe late night, double feature picture show.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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The consummate host of horrors <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The role of the Narrator is often performed by an older white man. But Sam Pinkleton, the director of the latest \u201cRocky Horror\u201d revival, envisioned Dratch in the role for a reason. While the Narrator can be a kind of tabula rasa, it\u2019s a crucial part, too: Dratch serves as both host and guide, adding context as the story unfolds.<\/span><\/p>\n

She is also a kind of bodyguard when the audience gets too rowdy. Occasionally, they do. \u201cRocky Horror\u201d has a devoted fan base that attends the popular midnight screenings of the 1975 film version. Those events often include dressing as the characters, yelling obscenities at the screen and throwing toast and rice in the air.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cSometimes 400 people are screaming one word at the same time, which Rachel is really prepared for,\u201d said Pinkleton, who won a Tony last year for directing \u201cOh, Mary!\u201d \u201cSometimes, one person in the balcony is screaming a line we\u2019ve never heard before from their production of \u2018Rocky Horror\u2019 in Ohio,\u201d he added. Dratch has to be ready for either.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAs an improviser, and as a host, she\u2019s in a league of her own,\u201d Pinkleton continued. \u201cNobody can do dry, understated, commanding humor quite like Rachel.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Those familiar with her character Debbie Downer know what he means. As the resident killjoy, Dratch would deliver one miserable piece of news after another, a funny bit on its own. But the punchline would arrive wordlessly, as the camera zoomed in on her dour face, accompanied by the \u201cwomp-womp\u201d of a sad trombone.<\/span><\/p>\n

As the Narrator, Dratch modulates her presence, which can feel understated as she steps in and out of the show. Sometimes she plays the saxophone, other times she strolls quietly across the stage eating popcorn. At one recent performance, the audience erupted as soon as she appeared.<\/span><\/p>\n

A caretaker amid the chaos <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s challenging to explain a joke \u2014 something inevitably is lost in translation \u2014 which is why it can be difficult to describe the droll humor Dratch brings to the stage.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cShe does something that\u2019s totally singular,\u201d Pinkleton said. \u201cIt\u2019s not so easily definable as other actors or comedians, where it\u2019s like, this is their brand. She\u2019s just, like, sneaky and elegant and genius.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Stephanie Hsu, one of Dratch\u2019s costars in \u201cRocky Horror,\u201d was initially surprised to discover that Dratch is rather shy offstage. \u201cI think she couldn\u2019t even possibly perceive how incredibly sparkly and special she is,\u201d Hsu said. But, Hsu added, her shyness made more sense as she got to know her.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Those who know Dratch best, like Irene Bremis, Dratch\u2019s \u201cWoo Woo\u201d cohost and childhood friend from their time at Lexington High School in Massachusetts, paint her as unassuming and a great friend. \u201cI think the only thing that could either match or supersede her talent is her heart,\u201d Bremis said, adding that Dratch connects deeply with people, and that it \u201cmakes you feel like you\u2019re the most important person in the world.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cRachel is always taking care of everything in her life that\u2019s important, outside of what she has to do,\u201d Bremis added.<\/span><\/p>\n

This was evident when we met at Studio 54, as the untied laces of Dratch\u2019s black, glittery sneakers dragged perilously along the floor. \u201cTying her shoes,\u201d Bremis said, \u201cbecomes, like, the least important thing.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

But even those who don\u2019t know Dratch personally are likely to find her disarmingly relatable, as when she made a cameo on the premiere episode of \u201cGood Hang,\u201d the podcast hosted by her friend and former \u201cSNL\u201d castmate Amy Poehler. While Poehler and the other guests seemed ready to start, Dratch first appeared on-screen in the dark, the camera of her laptop pointed at the top half of her head as she walked through her apartment.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cThere\u2019s a 30 percent chance she strangles herself,\u201d Seth Myers quipped as the camera cut to Dratch holding up a set of tangled headphones framing her face. Suddenly, she was interrupted by her doorbell and her dog barking. By the time she returned to her seat, Dratch said, through teary-eyed laughter, that the batteries of her microphone had died.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Happy hours <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

Becoming a mother at 44 drastically shifted Dratch\u2019s perspective, as well as her priorities, she said. After she left \u201cSNL\u201d in 2006, her career seemed to be slowing down, and she started to panic about her future.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd then I sort of decided not to,\u201d Dratch said. Four years later, she gave birth to Eli. Because she wasn\u2019t working as much, she was able to spend quality time with her son while he was young. \u201cIt was a good lesson for me,\u201d she said. \u201cYou just don\u2019t know what\u2019s coming.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Instead of agonizing over her career, which, she said, \u201cjust leads to unhappiness,\u201d Dratch enjoys going out for margaritas and laughing with friends.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s my favorite thing to do,\u201d she said. \u201cBut I don\u2019t get to do it all that often, especially with the play. This play is really cutting into my marg time \u2014 get that down!\u201d Dratch laughed, suddenly aware of how animated she had become.<\/span><\/p>\n

Marg sessions, Dratch said, were often when she would hear about her friends\u2019 esoteric encounters, which she filed away. Eventually, she would invite them to share their anecdotes on her podcast, \u201cWoo Woo.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cI burned through all the stories of my friends pretty quickly,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd now I joke around that I\u2019m at a party, and I\u2019m like, \u2018Hey, you ever see a light flicker?\u2019 Because I\u2019m always looking for guests.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

When she began \u201cWoo Woo,\u201d Dratch estimated she was at, as she put it, \u201c65 percent woo\u201d; the podcast has brought her up to 95 percent. There\u2019s no harm in crystals, she said, and though she is dubious about mediums, she\u2019s not totally closed off to the concept. The jury\u2019s still out on aliens. When it comes to astrology, \u201cI\u2019m very much a water sign,\u201d she said.<\/span><\/p>\n

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This article originally appeared in The New York Times.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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